The Great Debate–Jasonnie Vs. Jeffonnie

Salutations!! Today I am excited to say that Welcome to Odyssey is having its first debate! We have Naomi who made up the amazing questions, Hope and Brad on the Jasonnie side, and Hannah and I on the Jeffonnie side!

 

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Welcome to the great debate! This debate centers around poor Connie and her various ships, wahaha! Two of the ships being debated today are the Jason/Connie (Jasonnie) ship, and the Connie/Jeff (Jeffonnie) ship.

Let the tournament BEGIN!

1. Tell us why the chemistry between Connie and your ship is good. It seems to me that they both have some rough spots…

 

2. Building on that, tell us how the couple will support each other throughout life. Jeff has mission work, Jason has an antiques gallery. How will Connie be able to support their ventures?

 

3. Wahaha! It’s time for the mudslinging question! Tell us why the opposing ship is bad. (I.E., if you like Jasonnie, tell us why Jeffonnie is bad).

 

4. Each of your ships will probably have kids. Let’s pretend they have one boy and one girl. What will they be named, based on their relationship and history in Odyssey? Why do these names make this pair a good ship?

 

PEW PEW PEW! It’s time for… the WEDDING QUESTION!

5. If your ship got married, the wedding will undoubtedly go wrong somehow. What will go wrong, and how will Jason or Jeff fix it?

 

6. What is a pet peeve that Jason or Jeff will have about Connie?

 

7. Similarly, how will he help Connie overcome said pet peeve?

It’s time for… I’m running out of ideas!

 

8. Both Jeff and Jason were there to support Connie when her mom died. How did his actions show that he is a good match for Connie? Similarly, how do these make him better for Connie than the opposing ship?

 

9. How will each of the ships deal with Jules? Will Jason or Jeff kick Jules out of the house, or will he keep her in the family?

 

10. Canonically, Jason and Connie have not dated, while Jeff and Connie have once. Connie refers to Jason as “a big brother”, and Jeff as “a good friend”. WAHAHA it’s time for the twisting of information for your own purposes! How does this information support your ship and make the opposing ship unsuitable? Does having dated or not dated support the ship?

 

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1. Tell us why the chemistry between Connie and your ship is good. It seems to me that they both have some rough spots…

 

Yes, they do. But if there were no rough spots, they would already be married. 😉

For starters, they aren’t identical copies of each other. There are a lot of differences between them, but there are also similarities. Canonically, there are many more examples of Connie and Jason’s chemistry than Connie and Jeff’s. We’ve hardly even seen Jeff and Connie in action.

Anyway, Connie and Jason compliment each other very well, with Connie being the freaking-out-all-the-time one and Jason being the calm one, Jason being the super-adventurous one and Connie being the somewhat-cautious one, etc.

There are many episodes that show the chemistry between Connie and Jason in action, but my personal favorite is For Whom The Wedding Bells Toll. I absolutely adore that episode. *heart eyes* 

2. Building on that, tell us how the couple will support each other throughout life. Jeff has mission work, Jason has an antiques gallery. How will Connie be able to support their ventures? Connie will keep her job at Whit’s End, but will definitely help Jason at the antique shop sorting stuff and such after she is done with her shift. She has experience with the shop because she worked there temporarily when Jack and Joanne were getting started. (in The Painting)

3. Wahaha! It’s time for the mudslinging question! Tell us why the opposing ship is bad. (I.E., if you like Jasonnie, tell us why Jeffonnie is bad).

 

*starts slinging mud* JK JK 😀 😀 😀

 Frankly, there is a good reason going for Jeffonnie: they’ve been in a relationship before. But things have changed since then. If Connie married Jeff, she would only be in Odyssey every so often and she would be gone a lot. She would leave a gap that could never be filled. 😦 :(*sniff sniff* IT’S TYRANNY! 😥 😥 😀 😀 😀

Ahem. That’s not the ONLY reason Jeffonnie wouldn’t work. There’s another reason on a more personal level: Jeff doesn’t know what Connie has been through. He doesn’t know about Blackgaard, about Novacom, about Mitch, about Eugene, Jason, and Whit all being suddenly taken away from her at one time or another. Connie doesn’t need to have to explain all of these hardships to someone. Jason has lived them with her.

Another thing is, to me, Jeff and Connie are a lot alike. I want an Odyssey couple that is strikingly different, but has good chemistry, aka Jason and Connie.

4. Each of your ships will probably have kids. Let’s pretend they have one boy and one girl. What will they be named, based on their relationship and history in Odyssey? Why do these names make this pair a good ship?

 

I’ve been thinking about this for a loooong time, Y’all. I finally decided that June would absolutely have to be the name for the girl, in honor of Connie’s mom, and Jerry for the boy, in honor of Jason’s brother. It just seems fitting, doesn’t it? Adorable and perfect. 🤩

PEW PEW PEW! It’s time for… the WEDDING QUESTION!

5. If your ship got married, the wedding will undoubtedly go wrong somehow. What will go wrong, and how will Jason or Jeff fix it?

This is exactly what I’m currently brainstorming while writing my Wedding Worries fanfic series!!!

Here’s everything that’s gone wrong SO FAR:

Jules tries to run away

The team of previous love interests (plus Richard) hijjack the car

(another thing that I can’t say or I’ll be spoiling it XD)

And as for Jason fixing this stuff? You’ll have to wait and see!! *smirks*

6. What is a pet peeve that Jason or Jeff will have about Connie?

He’ll get upset with how she panics and will wish she’d stay calm.

(that’s not really a pet peeve but oh well this needs to be said)

7. Similarly, how will he help Connie overcome said pet peeve?

They will pray together, and he’ll try to understand her feelings more and help her feel safe and just love her.

8. Both Jeff and Jason were there to support Connie when her mom died. How did his actions show that he is a good match for Connie? Similarly, how do these make him better for Connie than the opposing ship?

 

I know you guys are probably thinking “but Jason was barely seen in this episode!” Which is true. But the scene at the antique shop was extremely important on so many levels.

#1: The chemistry. It just felt so normal, them being together and all. 🤩

#2: IF YOU HAVEN’T LISTENED TO IT IN A LONG TIME GO DO IT NOW. It’s from 8:45 to 9 minutes into Part Three. Jason’s reaction to the fact that she’s gonna live there alone. And then Connie asking if he’s worried about her. He starts stuttering, trying to think of an excuse. But the reality of it all is, he was worried about her. 😥 *heart eyes*

#3: Him being completely open to her about how he felt when Jerry died. 😥

All in all, there was a lot of openness, sincerity, and emotion packed into that one scene. *heart eyes*

 

9. How will each of the ships deal with Jules? Will Jason or Jeff kick Jules out of the house, or will he keep her in the family?

 

Jason will definitely let Jules stay. As in my Wedding Worries fic, Jules is having struggles with finding her place. Staying with Jason and Connie will help her have a secure home. Jason will also act as the father that Jules never had. She’ll be part of a normal family. 😀

10. Canonically, Jason and Connie have not dated, while Jeff and Connie have once. Connie refers to Jason as “a big brother”, and Jeff as “a good friend”. WAHAHA it’s time for the twisting of information for your own purposes! How does this information support your ship and make the opposing ship unsuitable? Does having dated or not dated support the ship?

 

Ok, let’s think about this. We have “Big Brother” versus “Good Friend”. “Big Brother” seems like a higher honor and a closer relationship than “Good Friend”. Jason and Connie have been through a lot together. They’ve seen each other at their worst and their best. They’ve laughed together, and they’ve cried together. They’ve joked together, and they’ve mourned together. Jeff just pops in every now and then to say hi. Granted, Jeff and Connie did date, but that was literally almost 15 Odyssey years ago. A lot has changed since then, including them. As for Jason and Connie having never dated, that’s because they’ve pretty much “always been friends”. If they had met in different circumstances, such as a chance meeting at a restaurant or something, who knows, maybe they’d be married by now. But don’t forget, Connie did have a crush on him. And, contrary to popular belief, that wasn’t a fabricated crush due to Eugene having Katrina and Jason having Tasha. Don’t forget, she was acting strange before Tasha even came on the scene, and before Eugene let it out that Katrina was coming back.

And before we finish this debate, let me say that it has been stated IN CANON that Jason is 38. My (educated) guess is that Connie is somewhere between 28 and 32. Most likely somewhere around 30. Age is not a valid argument to try and sink this ship.

THERE YOU HAVE IT.

I REST MY CASE.

JASONNIE FOREVER. ♥️

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1. Tell us why the chemistry between Connie and your ship is good. It seems to me that they both have some rough spots…

 

Connie definitely cares a lot about Jason. She talks about him if he is out of town and wants to know when he will get back. In ‘Home Again’ I could tell how happy Connie was to see Jason when he returned to Odyssey! They have known each other for many years and have been through a lot together. They both know each other quite well, and both want to settle down in Odyssey someday and raise a family. Was it just me, or did Connie seem really jealous when she found out Tasha was dating Jason in ‘Love is in the Air.’ And she was shocked to hear that they were engaged! (remember the kitchen incident with the pots and pans…lol) She seemed to have feelings for Jason and may have been hiding a slight crush on him. Connie is restless. With Wooton and Penny being married, she feels left out. SHE NEEDS SOMETHING…. SOMEONE who she can spend the rest of her life with! I feel that she is at the stage where she could at least start dating. And I believe Jason is the man she should date.

2. 2. Building on that, tell us how the couple will support each other throughout life. Jeff has mission work, Jason has an antiques gallery. How will Connie be able to support their ventures?  THANK YOU FOR ASKING!! Ok, well, Connie has experience with antiques! She would be able to help Jason with the Antique shop, and perhaps even run it with him! Remember Connie helping Jack and Joanne with a load of antiques in ‘The Painting?’ They definitely make a good match in this area.

 

3. Wahaha! It’s time for the mudslinging question! Tell us why the opposing ship is bad. (I.E., if you like Jasonnie, tell us why Jeffonnie is bad).

 

OOOOOOOKKK……WHERE DO I START????? First of all, Jeff is a missionary pilot that flies into different regions around the world offering help. CONNIE…. wants to settle down in Odyssey. So, they have very different life plans. Also, Connie has matured a lot in her faith, and Jeff is a new believer. Jason is a better match as they are closer in maturity in their faith. Also……Connie said her and Jeff ARE ONLY FRIENDS in, ‘Mean Streak.’ Clearly, they are not fit for or interested in, each other.

 

4. Each of your ships will probably have kids. Let’s pretend they have one boy and one girl. What will they be named, based on their relationship and history in Odyssey? Why do these names make this pair a good ship?

 

I’m not sure how this has any bearing on whether or not they make a good couple…but…I guess maybe they would name their kids after people they admire or admired. Jason really looks up to his dad, and Connie really looked up to her mom… So, maybe Andrew Avery Whittaker, and Kayla June Whittaker. I don’t know.

PEW PEW PEW! It’s time for… the WEDDING QUESTION!

5. If your ship got married, the wedding will undoubtedly go wrong somehow. What will go wrong, and how will Jason or Jeff fix it?

Ooh, Connie gets kidnapped by Mitch and his friends (as a joke of course). Mitch and his friends are disguised and Connie freaks out as she is kidnapped. Jason thinks Connie is really in trouble and goes after them. He loses them after a while but then finds their car near the edge of town. The men run off as they see him coming. Jason heads to the car hoping to find Connie, but she isn’t there. Then he hears a faint cry for help………IN THE TRUNK. He pops the trunk and ‘rescues’ her. Connie is so relieved to be safe. Then Mitch and his friends come up laughing. Connie, of course, thinks it is anything but funny.

6.6. What is a pet peeve that Jason or Jeff will have about Connie? She is not good at cooking, and she won’t use a stapler…??

7. Similarly, how will he help Connie overcome said pet peeve? Have her staple papers for a day and have her learn some good cooking skills.

8. Both Jeff and Jason were there to support Connie when her mom died. How did his actions show that he is a good match for Connie? Similarly, how do these make him better for Connie than the opposing ship?

 

Jason was there to help when he heard the news and was able to comfort Connie. He had also lost his mother and knew the hurt and pain she must be feeling. Jeff showed up at her mom’s house to give her his condolences but couldn’t relate to her loss as well as Jason could. Also, he was a very new Christian and could not offer the same counsel that Jason could give to Connie as a mature Christian.

 

9. How will each of the ships deal with Jules? Will Jason or Jeff kick Jules out of the house, or will he keep her in the family?

 

Well, Jules doesn’t know Jason or Jeff very well. I am pretty sure Jason would let Jules stay as Connie has been put in charge of caring for her sister, and it is the only place in Odyssey that would make sense for her to stay at. I think it would be good for Jules to be told what to do by somebody besides her sister. Besides, in a few years, she could be out of the house and married to Buck.

10. Canonically, Jason and Connie have not dated, while Jeff and Connie have once. Connie refers to Jason as “a big brother”, and Jeff as “a good friend”. WAHAHA it’s time for the twisting of information for your own purposes! How does this information support your ship and make the opposing ship unsuitable? Does having dated or not dated support the ship?

 

Jeff is really just a ‘good friend’ to Connie. Nothing more, Nothing less. Referring to Jason as ‘a big brother’ shows that she really looks up to Jason. She wouldn’t refer to Jason as anything more than that because they weren’t dating or interested in dating at that point. Having dated Jeff makes her relationship with him more awkward, especially after she refused to pursue a relationship with him.

 

 

 

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1. Tell us why the chemistry between Connie and your ship is good. It seems to me that they both have some rough spots…

 

Jeff is such a sweetheart, and so caring about Connie’s emotions. He kinda reminds he of Mitch…and Mitch did not work out, but Jeff should!! Jeff has not been in as many episodes as Jason has, but what I have seen with Jeff and Connie has been great!!

2. Building on that, tell us how the couple will support each other throughout life. Jeff has mission work, Jason has an antiques gallery. How will Connie be able to support their ventures? With Jeff being a missionary pilot, I do think that would be a bit hard on Connie. She would miss him a lot when he was gone. But I think Connie would be a good support for him, and she may even be able to go on some mission trips with him, I feel as if that would be good for her!

3. Wahaha! It’s time for the mudslinging question! Tell us why the opposing ship is bad. (I.E., if you like Jasonnie, tell us why Jeffonnie is bad).

 

I am not a huge shipper in Odyssey, except for Jules and Buck. I barely ship Connie with Jeff, but I ship her and Jeff more than I do her and Jason.

4. Each of your ships will probably have kids. Let’s pretend they have one boy and one girl. What will they be named, based on their relationship and history in Odyssey? Why do these names make this pair a good ship?

 

Oh man, I have never thought about that…I would think Connie would wanna name one of her daughters June, after her mom. And maybe a son after one of Jeff’s relatives.

PEW PEW PEW! It’s time for… the WEDDING QUESTION!

5. If your ship got married, the wedding will undoubtedly go wrong somehow. What will go wrong, and how will Jason or Jeff fix it?

Jeff would probably get stuck in some foreign country days before their wedding, and barely make it back to Odyssey. And during that Connie would be freaking out while Penny is trying to comfort her.

.6. What is a pet peeve that Jason or Jeff will have about Connie?

 Maybe her being late or talking too much. But what I have seen between Jeff and Connie, Jeff is very sweet to her no matter her quirks or mood.

 7. Similarly, how will he help Connie overcome said pet peeve? She might try to set more timers and such, to help her to not be late so much.

8. Both Jeff and Jason were there to support Connie when her mom died. How did his actions show that he is a good match for Connie? Similarly, how do these make him better for Connie than the opposing ship?

 

Well, both Jeff and Jason have lost a parent. But Jeff’s loss was more recent, and he was very compassionate and understanding to Connie’s feelings. With Jeff’s loss being more recent, I feel like he might be able to come alongside Connie better, with the grief.

9. How will each of the ships deal with Jules? Will Jason or Jeff kick Jules out of the house, or will he keep her in the family?

 

That is a great question. I am not sure how much we have seen either Jason or Jeff around Jules, so I am not sure…but, I think both would be good to her, but I think Jeff might have more patience.

10. Canonically, Jason and Connie have not dated, while Jeff and Connie have once. Connie refers to Jason as “a big brother”, and Jeff as “a good friend”. WAHAHA it’s time for the twisting of information for your own purposes! How does this information support your ship and make the opposing ship unsuitable? Does having dated or not dated support the ship?

 

I think since Connie only thinks of Jason as a big brother, then she loves him in a different way. But Connie and Jeff did date, it did not work out then, but Jeff was a lot different back then. I think it could work out now! Also, if he is just a “good friend” then that can be a good thing, because they must know each other well, and care for one another, but the big question is do they love each other, as in a marriage for life love? ❤

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1. Tell us why the chemistry between Connie and your ship is good. It seems to me that they both have some rough spots…

 

For Jeff and Connie, there was only one rough spot: Connie was a Christian and Jeff wasn’t. Now that this rough spot is no longer applicable, there should be no returning difficulties. Not to say that they wouldn’t find new rough spots, but only one from when they were dating. I’ll get more in-depth on these later, but the reasons why Connie and Jeff are a more compatible couple than Connie and Jason is because, one, they are already close friends. Two, they’ve known each other for a long time. And three, they have compatible personality differences and similarities.

2. Building on that, tell us how the couple will support each other throughout life. Jeff has mission work, Jason has an antiques gallery. How will Connie be able to support their ventures?Connie would go with Jeff on most of his trips. Connie has been trying to a find purpose, wanting to do more with her life, and mission work would fill that gap. She has the giftings for it, already knowing how to serve people, work with kids and speak with people about Jesus. This new job would also be easy to take up since Whit knows how important the work she’d be doing is, so he’d give her time off.

 

3. Wahaha! It’s time for the mudslinging question! Tell us why the opposing ship is bad. (I.E., if you like Jasonnie, tell us why Jeffonnie is bad).

 

Jason and Connie would be terrible together. Their personalities do not go well together, they are too far apart in age, and they are not attracted to the others’ type. Jason and Connie are both emotion based, quick-tempered, and often rash individuals. These similarities in their approach to life would make living together a near nightmare, seeing as they would never grow from each other’s differences, and instead, probably have these negative qualities inflamed. Jason’s aggressive nature against Connie’s angry outbursts could lead to serious consequences. They are too far apart in age. Jason was retiring from a career with the CIA before Connie graduated high school! Even if Jason was 35 when he retired, which is very young, Connie would be 18 at the oldest, putting them 17 years apart! Now, of course, Odyssey time is confusing, but even if excused the age gap, Connie and Jason are not attracted to each other. We know precisely what Connie looks for in a guy, and What Jason looks for in a girl. Connie is attracted to gentlemen. Guys who are gentle and compassionate and will take her on romantic walks and picnics. The softies who wear glasses and don’t bother with trying to impress her with their manly successes. Connie liked Mitch for his tender-hearted innocence, not because he could shoot a gun. Jason can be romantic, but his version of a romantic date and Connie’s expectations would not line up. Jason is attracted to beautiful, older, strong-willed, level-headed women. He needs someone who can make a firm decision, who loves him for his adventurous hobbies and can snap him back into reality when he sets goals too high. Connie does not fit into this category of women. Which is totally fine! She doesn’t need to! But she isn’t what Jason needs, or what he’s looking for. The biggest problem with the idea of shipping Jason and Connie is that shippers always get caught up in fangirling over how cute they’d be since they’re attractive, lovable characters, instead of looking at what would be best for the characters.

4. Each of your ships will probably have kids. Let’s pretend they have one boy and one girl. What will they be named, based on their relationship and history in Odyssey? Why do these names make this pair a good ship?

 

Jeff and Connie would name their children Amelia and Samuel. I chose these names because they highlight the gentle, introverted nature of Jeff and the spunky, extroverted nature of Connie. Amelia and Samuel are very soft sounding names, and with the nicknames of Amy and Sam, they can also bring a lot of fun and energy, so regardless of how their personalities turn out, these kids will have a name to fit it.

PEW PEW PEW! It’s time for… the WEDDING QUESTION!

5. If your ship got married, the wedding will undoubtedly go wrong somehow. What will go wrong, and how will Jason or Jeff fix it?

Connie would want to plan everything herself, making sure each detail is perfect. This would, of course, stress her out, and though she’d get everything planned, it would leave her nervous and exhausted. So, on the morning of their wedding, Jeff would bring her cupcakes and flowers, and take Connie on a walk through a flower infested garden, where they’d talk through their fears and get away from the chaos for a little while.

6. What is a pet peeve that Jason or Jeff will have about Connie? Jeff wouldn’t appreciate how often Connie watches romantic comedies or chick flicks. He’d find them unrealistic and It would be an area where he and Connie couldn’t relate. He might even become hurt, thinking, “Aren’t I enough for her?”

7. Similarly, how will he help Connie overcome said pet peeve? Jeff would at first push aside his feelings, but they would begin to build, and finally, he’d have to admit to himself and Connie that he was bothered. Understanding his point of view, Connie would watch less romance movies, and spend more time with her husband, realizing that her own romantic life was much better than anything on a screen.

8. Both Jeff and Jason were there to support Connie when her mom died. How did his actions show that he is a good match for Connie? Similarly, how do these make him better for Connie than the opposing ship? Jason wasn’t there a whole lot when June died. He and Connie talked about suffering, but even compared to Wooton and Eugene, Jason really didn’t give her much comfort. Instead, he began worrying about his dad. Now, there’s nothing wrong with this, and Jason probably did comfort Connie of mic, but it’s important to note that the writers didn’t think of Jason as part of Connie’s closest support group. Jeff on the other hand, was extremely courteous and understanding. He didn’t surprise Connie at June’s ceremony. He waited until later, when he could humbly reintroduce himself. Later, during the Pilot, Jeff proved himself again, offering to sacrifice talking about himself, to listen to Connie’s struggles. Not only this, but he also was humble to the point that he didn’t even mention that he knew how she felt because his dad had died recently. He understands the importance of working through heavy emotions to come out stronger. He doesn’t suppress sadness, and he could teach Connie how to approach grief more healthily.

 

9. How will each of the ships deal with Jules? Will Jason or Jeff kick Jules out of the house, or will he keep her in the family?

 

Jeff likes Jules and would never kick her out of the house. After he and Connie shared the space alone for a while, Jules would be welcomed back in, and treated as his own sister. I believe Jason, on the other hand, would have more of a problem with it. This isn’t a bad thing, Jason is just more of a private person, but it could become a problem if he didn’t address it, or denied how he really felt about Jules being around.

 

10. Canonically, Jason and Connie have not dated, while Jeff and Connie have once. Connie refers to Jason as “a big brother”, and Jeff as “a good friend”. WAHAHA it’s time for the twisting of information for your own purposes! How does this information support your ship and make the opposing ship unsuitable? Does having dated or not dated support the ship?

 

Statistically, best friends who get married, have more successful marriages. Being friends is apart of being married, so going from good friends to dating or married, wouldn’t be a difficult transition. On the other hand, going from a sibling relationship to a dating or marriage relationship, is not only creepy sounding, but destined to crash and burn. Even if their relationship was successful, it would still destroy something beautiful. That big brother, little sister relationship would be ruined. You can be married and still be friends, but you can’t be siblings and married.

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WOW!! You all did an amazing job!! I did not do the best…but I hope that between Hannah and I you will become a Jeffonnie shipper!! 😀 

Thank you, Hannah, for the idea, and for Naomi, Brad, and Hope for participating! It was a lot of fun! I hope you guys had fun too!! 

Are you a Jeffonnie shipper?

Or a Jasonnie shipper?

Who’s debate did you like best?

What are your thoughts on Jasonnie and Jeffonnie?

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Sorry for the weird formatting, when I copy and paste stuff sometimes it makes the spaces all weird, it is really frustrating!!

By the way, this is a Let’s Talk Tuesday post! 🙂